If God exists and he is a loving God why is there so much pain and suffering in the world?- guest post by Katie Finch

9 March, 2010

Katie Finch has kindly agreed that some work she did for her evangelism group can be shared here on my blog. There are a few of these essays that deal really comprehensively with real questions that those unsure about Christianity tend to ask and I’ll be posting them over the next few weeks.

If God exists and is all-powerful and loving, why is there so much pain and suffering in the world?

The vast majority of suffering that occurs in the world is due to man, some is directly due to man and some is indirectly due to man. Obviously it is really a sliding scale between how responsible man is for each event that causes suffering. But with some suffering it is hard to attribute them to mankind at all, for example some diseases or some natural disasters (earthquake in Haiti). It is much easier to blame God directly for the suffering caused by these things. So how can a God that is all powerful and loving bear there to be so much pain and suffering in the world?

God gave us Free Will

When God created the world, He gave us free will. Adam and Eve had the choice to obey God’s laws and to live in perfect relationship with Him where there would be no suffering and pain or to choose their own way. They turned away from God and this brought sin into the world.
It is not possible to have free will and no chance of moral evil. Once God created human beings and gave them free will it was then up to them and not God as to whether there was sin or not, because God gave them free will there was the chance of evil and consequently the suffering that comes from it. Therefore the source of evil is not in God’s power but in mankind’s freedom.

God created a world where people were free and there was not sin. After creation God declared that the world was good. People were free to choose to love God or turn away from Him. The blame ultimately lies with us. He did His part perfectly; we’re the ones that messed up.
Lee Strobel, The Case for Faith, 37

Sometimes suffering can lead to good
God is an all knowing God. He knows not only what is going on in the present but what is going to happen in the future. His wisdom vastly exceeds ours. Therefore it is reasonable to argue that God can tolerate present suffering because He knows that in the future people will be better off in the long run than if God miraculously intervened.
For example families getting to know each other better during a time of crisis shows how suffering can ultimately lead to good. If God had miraculously intervened in that situation to avert the crisis the family would not have come together.
This might be hard to understand, that God allows suffering because He knows ultimately it will lead to good but the death of Christ on the cross demonstrates this perfectly.
At the time when Jesus was crucified nobody could see how anything good could come out of Jesus dying on the cross but God could. It was part of His plan. He knew that Jesus death and resurrection would mean people could enter into relationship with Him.

So the worst tragedy in history brought about the most glorious event in history. If it happened there – if the ultimate evil can result in the ultimate good – it can happen elsewhere, even in our own individual lives.
Lee Strobel, The Case for Faith, 39


It is also true that we learn from pain and suffering and sometimes we need it in our lives to teach us something. We may not be able to see it at the time but God can see it. We all learn from mistakes we have made and the suffering they bring. In the Bible it tells us that Jesus learned obedience through suffering.

Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered.
Hebrews 5:8

There is also sometimes a sense in which, for a Christian, suffering can be a punishment. God will sometimes admonish his children to remind them that they should follow him. When this happens it is always ultimately for their good. It would be wrong for God not punish his children after they do wrong. Ultimately His hope is still that people would turn to him, in the same way that a Father would punish his child so that they might learn.

Suffering can bring people to God
Another argument against God existing might be that evil people get away with hurting others all the time and why would a loving, all-powerful God let this happen? But there will come a day when everyone will be held responsible for what they have done. Strobel argues that to criticise God for not intervening now is like reading half a novel and criticising the author for not resolving the plot. In fact the Bible says the reason God is delaying is because He wants as many people to seek and find Him as possible.

God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks to us in our conscience, but shouts in our pains. It is His megaphone to rouse a deaf world.
C.S. Lewis, The Problem of Pain, 83

Suffering leads to repentance. God is desperate to reach out to those who do not know Him. Often in our pain and suffering we cry out to God, and we draw closer to Him and even repent. This is ultimately the best thing that could ever happen to anyone, and it is God’s desire for everyone, it is what He is longing for. It is usually only when we suffer that we start to ask questions and seek for something more and God can use this to draw us closer to Him.
But why do ‘good’ people suffer as much, if not more, than bad people? In order to answer this question we need to look at what makes a good person. We may be made in God’s image but we are not morally good. When we assess ourselves against God’s law we fall way short. When we try to do good deeds they are tarnished with self interest, when we seek justice it is mixed with a desire for vengeance. There are no good people. People might do good things sometimes, but when we compare ourselves to God’s utterly perfect standards then not one person is perfectly good. But pain and suffering are often the means through which we surrender to God. All suffering has the potential for good but not everyone realises that potential. We can all, including people without faith, look back on our past and say I learned from that difficult time and I am a better person for it. If we can see good coming out of suffering without God in the picture how much more with God’s help will we see how evil can work for good. There is also a sense in which the Devil has a role in suffering. God is sovereign and is ultimately in control, He does not pleasure in anyone suffering but the devil delights in suffering and uses it to turn us away from God.
How can God bear all the suffering in the world?

It is not a question of how God can bear all the suffering in the world but an acceptance that God did bear it and although we may not fully understand why things happen the way they do. God is in control and longs for us to be in relationship with Him.

He himself entered into all that agony, He himself bore all of the pain of this world, and that’s unimaginable and shattering and even more impressive than the divine power of creating the world in the first place. … The fact that he went beyond justice and quite incredibly took all the suffering upon himself, makes him so winsome that the answer to suffering is how could you not love this being who went the extra mile, who practised more than he preached, who entered into our world, who suffered our pains, who offers himself to us in the midst of our sorrows? What more could he do? The answer to how can God bear all the suffering in the world is that He did!
Lee Strobel, The Case for Faith, 46

The answer to suffering is the answerer. It’s Jesus himself. It’s not a bunch of words, it’s the Word. It’s not a tightly woven philosophical argument; it’s a person. Jesus is there, sitting beside us in the lowest places of our lives, are we broken? He was broken for us. Are we despised and rejected? Do we cry out that we can’t take anymore? He was a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. Do people betray us? He was sold out himself. Are our tenderest relationships broken? He too loved and was rejected. Do people turn from us? They hid their faces from Him. Does he descend into all of our hells? Yes He does! No matter how deep our darkness He is deeper still. In the end God has only given us partial explanations but he knew Jesus was more than an explanation. He’s what we really need. If your friend is sick and dying the most important thing he wants is not an explanation; he wants you to sit with him. He is terrified of being alone more than anything else. So God has not left us alone.
Lee Strobel, The Case for Faith, 52

I could never myself believe in God, if it were not for the cross … In the real world of pain, how could one worship a God who was immune to it? I have entered many Buddhist temples in different Asian countries and stood respectfully before the statue of Buddha, his legs crossed, his arms folded, eyes closed, the ghost of a smile playing around his mouth, a remote look on his face, detached from the agonies of the world. But each time after a while I have had to turn away. And in imagination I have turned instead to that lonely, twisted, tortured figure on the cross, nails through hands and feet, back lacerated, limbs wrenched, brow bleeding from thorn-pricks, mouth dry and intolerably thirsty, plunged in God-forsaken darkness. That is the God for me! He laid aside his immunity to pain. He entered our world of flesh and blood, tears and death. He suffered for us. Our sufferings become more manageable in light of His. There is still a question mark against human suffering, but over it we boldly stamp another mark, the cross which symbolises divine suffering. The cross of Christ … is God’s only self-justification in such a world as ours.
John R W Stott, The Cross of Christ, 335-336

God created a world which He called good, where there was no suffering and pain, but mankind turned away from God and sin entered into the world bringing suffering. But God had a plan, He sent Jesus, who suffered and died for us and took the punishment for our wrong doing. This means if we surrender to His will and confess that He is Lord and believe it in our hearts we will be with Him in heaven where we can live forever in perfect relationship with God as He intended and there will again be no suffering.

This is real love – not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as a sacrifice to take away our sins.
1 John 4:10


Building for the Gospel- the fund-raising begins!

4 March, 2010

Letter to GerrardStreet:

It is with remarkable ease that we have received planning permission for our “Building for the Gospel” development. As a listed building and with many neighbours, there was a good possibility that objections would be raised. But with one or two very minor alterations, the proposed design has been accepted. We need to thank God for answering our prayers! Read the rest of this entry »


Why I’m an environmentalist- Part 2

16 February, 2010

In the first part of this post, I gave a broad definition of an environmentalist as “someone who cares deeply about the environment, and is prepared to do all he or she can to protect and enhance it”. Interestingly, since writing that, I have come across a number of articles discussing the difference between the “conservationist” of the first 70 years of the 20th century and the “environmentalist” who was invented in the late 60s. To quote one explanation of the difference:

“In the past, conservationists were concerned with leaving the environment in a better state than the condition he or she found it. The contemporary environmentalism movement, on the other hand, increasingly seems to view humankind as an inherently intrusive interloper upon nature. This may explain why the debate on environmental issues has become increasingly polarised”.

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Some thoughts on prayer

4 February, 2010

A few weeks ago at a Gerrard Street elders’ meeting we planned to consider the prayer life of our church. As we began to discuss this, something quite remarkable happened. The discussion moved away from the prayer life of Gerrard Street and turned to the prayer life of our group. As the leaders, we saw clearly that we needed to first ask “how is the prayer life of the elders’ group” before we asked the broader question regarding the church. The outcome is that we are committed to spending about half of our meetings together in prayer. During our last meeting, for instance, we split up into two groups and prayed through the entire membership list. Time well spent! Read the rest of this entry »


Why I’m an environmentalist- Part 1

2 February, 2010

I can remember when the Green Party was considered by pretty much everyone to be a bunch of wackos. Not any more. In fact, everyone, politicians, church leaders, celebrities are all desperate to show their green credentials.

What are we to make of all this? What is the biblical and Christian attitude to the environment? Read the rest of this entry »


A Christmas Parable

18 December, 2009

Isaiah 9:6- His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Read the rest of this entry »


Nine reasons why I use the ESV for my preaching and personal devotions

18 December, 2009

Over the last few years, I have come to really love the English Standard Version (ESV). In my journey of “preaching Bible”, I have moved from the NIV to the NASB and have now settled on the ESV. In my journey of “devotional Bible”, I have moved from NIV to NASB to NLT to the Message to ESV. It is also the version I use with my children (aged 7 to 13, although, to be fair, the 7 year old is very capable intellectually). Here are nine reasons why I use it. Please do not read into these reasons criticism of other versions. While I clearly believe the ESV is the “best” English translation available today, I would affirm all versions mentioned in this post as good or reasonable translations through which God has and does work. Read the rest of this entry »


Bah Humbug! Should Christians celebrate Christmas?

11 December, 2009

Every now and then, I encounter people who think Christians shouldn’t celebrate Christmas. They make some good points about materialism and syncretism, but on balance I remain convinced that in God’s providence, we are where we are and we should seek to celebrate Christmas in a godly and Jesus-centred way. What does that look like? Here’s some thoughts. Read the rest of this entry »


Video of An Evening of Eschatology” :: Desiring God

16 November, 2009

I found this discussion of the millennial question really helpful, both because of the passion with which they express their different viewpoints and the unity that they clearly have in the gospel. Put aside a couple of hours and watch it. Read the rest of this entry »


Review of 2008-2009 at Gerrard Street (Contact letter)

7 July, 2009

Dear friends,

As we enter the summer period and church activities quieten down somewhat, its a great time to look back on the months that have been and ahead to the months that are to come. In many ways it’s been a challenging year in leadership terms, but much of that is due to the “pains of growth” and in my view these are pains worth bearing. Read the rest of this entry »